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 Downloads of the Chile Version
Author: Enoch (---)
Date:   04-04-10 09:17 PDT

While I am not interested in Spoilers, it is interesting to watch the Chile version, always behind the TM Version. Also, there cud be clues in the Chile Version omitted in the Telemundo version. Thus that cud be a little spoilerish. I will put a few of those clues at the end of this list. These megauploads do not have spoiler titles like one may see on YouTube.

Capítulo 1
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WZKRIGYO

Capítulo 2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4WOL1WZO

Capítulo 3
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0QTLL7QG

Capítulo 4
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CRJU4VAD

Capítulo 5
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MCAVBBDE

Capítulo 6
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LPMNWNB9

Capítulo 7
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=50C3ES4B

Capítulo 8
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SV8WCPCJ

Capítulo 9
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=61MVRJ20

Capítulo 10
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IA1BLMCL

Capítulo 11
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K2PO4MYQ

Capítulo 12
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0U15119L

Capítulo 13
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S590P9E1

Capítulo 14
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MULQ7Y4U

Capítulo 15
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DBL3QU4B

Capítulo 16
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6AKWLSG5

Capítulo 17
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2RITRPFC

Capítulo 18
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7GC6IGP0

Capítulo 19
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NMNQ8NID

Capítulo 20
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BMDNCAMA

Capítulo 21
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EXY12YH1

Capítulo 22
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TJ5QDO5X

Capítulo 23
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CNMPCZFD

Capítulo 24
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DC4HV7LT

Capítulo 25
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6VWHA5ZN

Capítulo 26
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W2GD32N0

Capítulo 27
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S5VDLWWX

Capítulo 28
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TNIDPQZ6

Capítulo 29
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XB0HWFQW

Capítulo 30
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SCIZ4GH6

Capítulo 31
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DXYQSGXE

Capítulo 32
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8T1TXN2L

Capítulo 33
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SUZWADJ0

Capítulo 34
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QNIO6Z1W

Capítulo 35
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XFDLJWG0

Capítulo 36
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G9YIR6Y2

Capítulo 37
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L3H8YQV6

Capítulo 38
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M1V1ZODF

Capítulo 39
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9T1CG4IK

Capítulo 40
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=14C2837B

Capítulo 41
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J228W37J

Capítulo 42
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QRZHE78R

Capítulo 43
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KB3JRWWF

Capítulo 44
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9YXVQ4S1

Capítulo 45
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9RS79CEE

Capítulo 46
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F1HYMY2Z

Capítulo 47
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YLFPV1XE

Capítulo 48
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X2KY0MSP

Capítulo 49
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FE98QDPS

Capítulo 50
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7ZMAXCR3

Capítulo 51
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=31GJ7GBZ

Capítulo 52
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JV1GWB90

Capítulo 53
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y9DFH662

Capítulo 54
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4M5NAD71

Capítulo 55
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5O09N29O

Capítulo 56
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JDHVZ02A

Capítulo 57
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C4F1HJHL

Capítulo 58
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q6PJX8ZN

Capítulo 59
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G2R8BXJ0

Capítulo 60
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RURLMXM3

Capítulo 61
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=30OH9QCN

Capítulo 62
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E772O5M3

Capítulo 63
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FGCA7W5P

Capítulo 64
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NJ3VJ7US

Capítulo 65
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TQTSADJQ

Capítulo 66
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=63KT2Y56

Capítulo 67
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OKQG3QQR

Capítulo 68
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TCBO4I3Q

Capítulo 69
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TOIO1FLB

Capítulo 70
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G40YVGSA

Capítulo 71
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HL5EXZ9L

Capítulo 72
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5NRU450X

Capítulo 73
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QR4WXJBL

Capítulo 74
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DXVJ7UEB

Capítulo 75
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TW6FY5BK

Capítulo 76
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ON56IE8Q

Capítulo 77
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1J37M3QK

Capítulo 78
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C9ZKP4LV

Capítulo 79
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PBZ58U26

Capítulo 80
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S3MHF6AG

Capítulo 81
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AXCKWRQR

Capítulo 82
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LNOL3WHW

Capítulo 83
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I5J08CF2

Capítulo 84
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B1PY9KWM

Capítulo 85
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XFAN7BVS

Capítulo 86
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OMLJ6OBY

Capítulo 87
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H0VFQM18

Capítulo 88
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZSC3MFHD

Capítulo 89
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J8GDW7F0

Capítulo 90
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TOELFLJJ

Capítulo 91
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MK4QYIJW

Capítulo 92
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ETX3A3TS

Capítulo 93
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VEG099MN

Capítulo 94
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8KB9N4Q0

Capítulo 95
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=99ZFOW4R

Capítulo 96
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CLD1X6D0

Capítulo 97
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NZ6IQQLU

Capítulo 98
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R254EYZ5

Capítulo 99
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LISL9CL1

Capítulo 100
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0CV3XRNO

Capítulo 101
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RIGMPB3P

Capítulo 102
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=61561IW1

Capítulo 103
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TQCIG1FN

Capítulo 104
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MU1L7PW5

Capítulo 105
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9XVIEZ9J

Capítulo 106
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8GEN9XZF

Capítulo 107
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XNEOC5CB

Capítulo 108
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2GIEH2MF

Capítulo 109
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YV5I8654

Capítulo 110
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M8KVGV3Y

Capítulo 111 (FINAL)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YOHYX7T4

Clue: The Chile Ric met the Chile Isabel (whom they let sit down in the foyer in Chile -- poor Isabel has to stand up like at a hamburger stand in the USA) -- Ric met Isabel (not first time) at Viv's cupid event.
But in the Chile version, Ric acted hormonally interested in Isabel and did some besuqueando with her. For what its worth, that indicates that Ric was capable of smooching Elisa. But in the USA version, Ric has not yet shown hormonal interest in a woman, unless u want to interpret the date he made with Isabel that way. We never got to see what happened at that date, if it took place. My theory (not from Chile) is that Ric wanted to plot with Isabel.

Clue: During the discussion between Nic & Ceci when she had come over allegedly to say adios to Nic at his apt, where eventually Mariano knocked on the door; Nic reminded Ceci that she had un proyecto that she was neglecting out of cowardice. In the Chile version it was a proyecto de vida. This supports more the view that Ceci does want to take over the Empresas & push Mariano aside. We cud speculate that actually Bruno is the genius of the Construction Company; I think he said as much in the Chile version, that it was his genius that actually made the Empresa a success. That would explain why Ceci wants to hold on to Bruno and wants him in the empresa when she takes over it. But it is hard to reconcile with her bad-mouthing of Bruno, as if he was not all that important & if he stayed home from work a day & took care of the kids, he wud not be missed. One cud speculate that she wants it well understood that she is the matriarch of top importance, so she puts down Bruno. One can theorize that Nic wants this project to succeed with him as the new husband of Ceci, California being a community property state. Thus if he marries Ceci & she has it all, he wud get half of all.

Clue: The flashback of Ed & Elisa on Glam night was more involved. We saw Ed follow Elisa out of the Spicy Glam immediately. Thus it appears that at 2 AM Elisa rejected Saint's te invito to the beach. She went out for the beach, but Ed followed her right away. They argued & struggled over his cell phone & Elisa got knocked down & some blood on the face. Then she ran off. Since all that probably took 2 minutes, that indicates that Elisa was on the beach from 2:02 until 2:15 when she sent a text to Saint. Saint ran out at once. That means she was gone by about 2:16 AM probably. And thus something very sudden must have happened to take her away fast. And she took off or had her dress taken off before 2:16. The dress had tears and got salt water wet by the next day. And she had her cell phone at 2:15. But by the morning it too was salt water wet. Did she attempt suicide by drowning after the Ed altercation with her cell phone clipped to her dress? & then get cold feet? But then her cell phone would not have worked. Or did the tide come in & wet the dress & cell phone? Why didn't the Saint see that red dress on the beach? Did she throw it in the ocean & ditch the cell phone to frustrate its GPS function? Why didn't she throw the cell phone in the ocean?
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 Downloads of the Telemundo Version
Author: Enoch (---)
Date:   04-04-10 10:07 PDT

Capítulo 1
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CZSTB7PC

Capítulo 2 Unir con Hacha
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=INRHKGRM
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2JBPC6Z9
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=38QUFL53

Capítulo 3 Unir con Hacha
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R65Z8FB7
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DG961Y0D

Capítulo 4 Unir con Hacha
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QFW797MZ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NS7JUNLR

Capítulo 5 Unir con Hacha
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SVLR5CFK
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YJFF7SL0

Capítulo 6 Unir con Hacha
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=11MLHGLY
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S8CZUI1Q

Capítulo 7 Unir con Hacha
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J5K2BRXL
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O0MUYSQL

Capítulo 8 Unir con Hacha
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IZA1JJIR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OFT1NBJ8

Capítulo 9 Unir con Hacha
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LM1G4FC8
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FYZ8L42D

Capítulo 10 Unir con Hacha
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0PE0W3XD
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BED59282

I haven't tried the above. "Hacha" could be some program you need to watch these.


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Capítulo 1
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0a1fec ... 08_NyD.avi

Capítulo 2
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0a4a81 ... 09_NyD.avi

Capítulo 3
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0abfad ... 10_NyD.avi

Capítulo 4
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0b1g52 ... 311_PC.avi

Capítulo 5
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0ag1ec ... 12_NyD.avi

Capítulo 6
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0da478 ... 15_NyD.avi

Capítulo 7
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0da4e0 ... 16_NyD.avi

Capítulo 8
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0dd42e ... 18_NyD.avi

Capítulo 9
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0dfa3e ... 19_NyD.avi

Capítulo 10
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0e0583 ... 22_NyD.avi
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 hacha joins all files into 1 file NT
Author: Ramonv (---)
Date:   04-04-10 12:00 PDT

NT

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 Re: hacha joins all files into 1 file NT
Author: Enoch (---)
Date:   04-04-10 12:10 PDT

Ramanov, is it going to be easy to use, or sticky wicket?

BTW, my evaluation of some of the actors:

Consuela is more believable, but Ceci is more entertaining. Certainly I find her fights w/ Bruno more entertaining than in the Chile version -- reminds me of the Honeymooners (Jacky Gleason).

Santiago seems a better nastier young punk than his Chile counterpart.

Our Viv is a more of a real hoot.

The Telemundo actresses are much more beautiful than the Chile (IMO). But the Chile are more real life -- which do you prefer beauty or real life, warts on face/nose, etc.?

That's based on caps 1-6; I am staying well behind TM on watching the Chile version, as I don't want spoilers.
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 I prefer real life looking actors
Author: Ramonv (---)
Date:   04-04-10 12:54 PDT

Hacha is really easy to use, just grab part 1 of a file and the program will find the rest to join it into "1 file" then you can delete the other parts.

These actors are more believable. Most of these Chilean actors work in theater, the novelas are like their part time jobs. Sometimes they do both at the same time. They also work in movies and some of them are working for HBO in a Chilean TV series coming next year to HBO Latino in the USA and HBO LA.

(IMO) the Telemundo actors sound very fake (not all of them), they are forced to use an accent they are not used to. Some are believable and do it very good others are like is their first time on TV.

TVN allows real phrases on TV but Telemundo can't do it, they have to tame the language (FCC is watching). "Elisa" was written for a very adult audience, similar to the HBO/Showtime series.

Right now TVN is airing "Conde Vrolok" there they have to speak Spanish from the 1880's, it sounds neutral like the Spanish spoken on Telemundo, includes some actors from the original "Elisa". Here's a clip in HD and they still look like real people not fabricated faces http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBdaykEgqjw

here's a sample from "los Angeles de Estela" in HD, here they spoke in modern Chilean Spanish and check out the girl who played "Elisa". They still look real and believable:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjS2RNdrfVY

Just my opinion.

Forgot to mention that some Chilean novelas have been dubbed into Mexican Spanish, using the same Chilean actors to dubbed their own work for international markets.

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 Hacha & The only problem I have with the Chile
Author: Enoch (---)
Date:   04-04-10 14:43 PDT

So I take it that I, having a Mac, would download all files in a capitulo and right click on the first one, selecting "open with" and then select Hacha as the program with which to open. and that wud do it.

The only prob I have w/ the Chile language is that I can't understand it well. Other than that, I love natural accents, of which we all have one. I like my wife's Guatemalan version of Spanish, since I find it more comprehensible than other versions. I wud have all the Mexicans speak Guatemalan.

When I was in England, I heard this Scottish girl (prob from the Highlands) speak, and cud not understand her at all. Also a guy from Yorkshire stumped me.

One of my first experiences in England was talking with a telephone operator. We went back and forth like:

Me: Whut?
Her: Wot?
Me: Whut?
Her: Wot?

I finally figured out that we were both saying, "What?"

But it makes British movies interesting the use of different accents from the one island, conveying not just geography, but also social class.

I enjoy hearing the different actors in DEE use the English that they throw in a lot and how they have different English accents, mostly different degrees of ability to sound like an American. Mariano says, "You got me?"
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